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	<title>Central and South American Cichlid Information</title>
	<description>Central and South American Cichlid Information</description>
	<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php</link>
	<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:20:55 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Central and South American Cichlid Information</title>
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		<title>New juvi electric blue dempseys</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27040</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I picked these 3 up just a few hours ago - special order at Pet Supermarket, cost me a whopping $10 each :-)<br /><br />They are about 2 1/2 inches.<br /><br />Other than cropping, photos are untouched.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/KI4LIV/Fish/EBD3.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/KI4LIV/Fish/EBD2.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/KI4LIV/Fish/EBD1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>JWhipple</starter>
		<poster>umbiemaniac</poster>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 20:21:13 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:30:29 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>DISCUSBOOK 01 - New stunning Publication</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27009</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi great Cichlid guys,<br /><br />I wanted inform you all at C-madness, also Discus and other cichlids as well as all fish and plant lovers, Amazon and nature enthusiasts, as well as Angelfish lovers. We just published a very unique new book. It contains for the first time in any publication, internet or other any media, all the 9 natural angelfish variants (species) in detail. There is a very large article on the real P. altum (demonstrating that it has never been bred before). There are new cichlids discoveries, new characoids and so much more in it. All from the end of 2009, including 20 pages on new, never seen sucker catfishes, as well as rediscoveries of amazing loricariids in Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela at the end of 2009. Also stunning biotope aquariums and how to do them for discus and other cichlids - never seen before done in such an extent of informations.<br /><br />This is a world-wide first publication of its kind.<br /><br />It is called Discusbook, but actually it is a 114 page thick hardcover magazine in A4 size, with photographs on nature and discoveries never seen or published anywhere previously.<br /><br />It will come out yearly (to follow up with my Discus volume 1 and soon coming volume 2), and this is 01 issue. <br /><br />A short demonstration to be seen, as well as what its contents are, under<br /><a href="http://www.aquapress-bleher.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1" target="_blank">http://www.aquapress-bleher.com/index.php?...ge&Itemid=1</a><br /><br />Enjoy,<br /><br />Heiko Bleher<br />www.aquapress-bleher.com<br />]]></description>
		<starter>Heiko Bleher</starter>
		<poster>Tony</poster>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:40:00 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:06:42 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Haitiensis Came in Today!!</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26993</link>
		<description><![CDATA[My Hatiensis came in today from Cichlid Connection.I tell you what Gage and his crew are some awesome people to deal with over there.Fish were very healthy and most of all they were the size that they were suppose to be.I could not have asked for a better experience.<br />Thanks again Gage.<br />Here is a small clip of a male and female already taking over a flower pot and they have only been in the tank about 40 minutes!!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_hpBSegG7Q" target="_blank">Haitiensis mini clip</a><br /><br /><img src="http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg122/czechdogs/DSCN3776.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>sickcichs</starter>
		<poster>umbiemaniac</poster>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:36:38 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:02:56 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>My new 6ft tank</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26990</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Folks, <br /><br /><br />It been almost a month since i had set up this tank , the set up is still in complete , few things still to be added <br />My New Tank, Need advise from CM to improve it <br /><br />I know my tank is nothing compared to what u guys have <img src="http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br />I just spend time during weekends when i am free ,lots of things to be done <br />]]></description>
		<starter>bilal007aman@hotmail.com</starter>
		<poster>John Michael</poster>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:48:32 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:16:29 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Mating Behaviors</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26984</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Can anyone tell me if you think my Red Devils are showing signs of mating behaviors??I have never had Reds to pair up!Attached are a couple of videos.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4ZdiYUg-lU" target="_blank">Visit My Website</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY_R3R9akro" target="_blank">Visit My Website</a><br /><br />]]></description>
		<starter>sickcichs</starter>
		<poster>sickcichs</poster>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:43:46 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:45:17 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>My  Kraussi</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26982</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Here are my Kraussi that I hope the breed before long.I have 5 in a 75gl for now.Hope to run a trio of these guy's.<br /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/Kraussi001.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/Kraussi002.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/Kraussi003.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/Kraussi005.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/Kraussi006.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/Kraussi007.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>BUD</starter>
		<poster>Dawg57</poster>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:18:39 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:16:05 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Pictures of my 3 pairs of Umbees</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26981</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The first 3 picture are of the pair that is trying to breed right now and their tank<br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies043.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies016.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies021.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/Tanks294.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br />the second pair are in the their own 125 but not really settled in yet<br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies034.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies033.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies045.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><br />and the 3rd pair are still in a 90 divided tell I get one more 6' tank<br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies004.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies005.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>BUD</starter>
		<poster>BUD</poster>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:57:18 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Just sharing one of my CA pairs</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26980</link>
		<description><![CDATA[They are in full breeding color.Hope you like I will be posting  all of my collection through out the next day or so<br /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies046.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/umbies051.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>BUD</starter>
		<poster>katt66</poster>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:27:52 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:27:30 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Hogaboomorum</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26978</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Here are some pics and a video of my Hogaboomorum.He is only 3.5 years old!!<br /><br /><img src="http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg122/czechdogs/bumpyjohnson.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na_M0a74flM" target="_blank">Bumpy Johnson</a>]]></description>
		<starter>sickcichs</starter>
		<poster>sickcichs</poster>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:21:27 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:25:05 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>help ID  this Fish</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26973</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Folks <br /><br />One LFS guy is selling this Fish as Red Texas, it does'nt have the color of red texas, but he says it is red texas, if it is  really a red texas , can any one here help me out with this, if it is relly a red texas , As per the LFS guy , the color enhances only once it grows , right it is around 1.5 inches <br /><br /><br />I have attached few pics of it , please help me if it is a Red texas, and should i go for it , if it is one]]></description>
		<starter>bilal007aman@hotmail.com</starter>
		<poster>katt66</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:30:02 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:47:45 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>vieja synspilum</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26972</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Folks, <br /><br />I have Finally set up my 6 ft tank , i am getting vieja synspilum for a very good price is it ok to go with it , <br />Any of u guys have any any experience keeping it ?<br /><br />Please do let me know]]></description>
		<starter>bilal007aman@hotmail.com</starter>
		<poster>bilal007aman@hotmail.com</poster>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:42:06 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:00:41 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>what is a red devil capable of eating</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26959</link>
		<description>I caught this baby alligator snapping turtle at the creek the other day and i want to give it to my bro,but he has a 10 inch red devil and im thinking it is capable of kicking that 4.5inch turtles ass.Should i give it to him?</description>
		<starter>cichlid21</starter>
		<poster>cichlid21</poster>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:12:40 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:36:57 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>when to breed</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26957</link>
		<description><![CDATA[how big do convicts have to be before they are ready to breed<br />]]></description>
		<starter>cichlid21</starter>
		<poster>umbiemaniac</poster>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:50:38 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:03:37 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Is this a disaster?</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26951</link>
		<description><![CDATA[A Grammodes, a Festae, and a Beani in a 360 gallon tank?<br /><br /><br />I want to have more cichlids than what I have and trying to figure out what would work? I have such a big tank, but only seem to be able to house 1 cichlid at a time. I like Festae, Beani, Motaguense, Umbrieferum, Black Nasty, Midas, Grammodes, Green Terror, Red Jewel, Escondido. Is there a possibility of any of the combinations working, if so which one would you suggest trying?]]></description>
		<starter>Cichlidfever</starter>
		<poster>Cichlidfever</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:22:18 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:14:36 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>black convicts</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26947</link>
		<description>I am going to get a new 30 gallon tank and some black convicts. I havent had them before but i know they breed like crazy.My brother use to breed pink convicts and he is a big help. How should i start if i want to breed them</description>
		<starter>cichlid21</starter>
		<poster>cichlid21</poster>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:44:26 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:03:49 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>sajica tank mates</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26943</link>
		<description><![CDATA[do you think severums would be good tank mates for sajicas? <br /><br />i have a 75 gallon with 8 sajicas in it. i found a friend that has 3 red severums for sale.  would it be over stocked then?]]></description>
		<starter>chevyguy15</starter>
		<poster>shep</poster>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:20:34 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:47:21 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>male texas from the canal</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26925</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<img src="http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo181/psychogat3/randompics117.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo181/psychogat3/randompics118.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>psychogat3</starter>
		<poster>umbiemaniac</poster>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:28:26 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:59:47 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>My Red Devil</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26921</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Foks sharing few pics of my Red devil , one has devloped a good head(hump) but the color is not that bright , any suggestions please as to how i can improve its color <br /><br />Thnak in advance .!!!<br /><br />]]></description>
		<starter>bilal007aman@hotmail.com</starter>
		<poster>cichlid21</poster>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:34:46 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:16:53 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Before and After(Green Terror )</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26919</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24874'>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24874</a>Hi Guys , <br /><br />Havnt Posted,anything for some time, so thought will upload few pics of my GT <br /><br />]]></description>
		<starter>bilal007aman@hotmail.com</starter>
		<poster>bilal007aman@hotmail.com</poster>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:05:12 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:05:12 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Can you sex this texas?</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26897</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<img src="http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8551/52978940918713635700.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3105/52978842218713597940.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br />Thanks, Justin<br /><br />]]></description>
		<starter>JustinMadness</starter>
		<poster>BUD</poster>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 20:39:28 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 03:34:17 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>umbee spawn</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26892</link>
		<description><![CDATA[male is f2 , female is f0 columbian . they ended up eating them , but only about a week later laid again and i have some wigglers in there this time  <img src="http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbup:" border="0" alt="thumbsup.gif" /> . hope they make it  ....    <br /><br /><br />&lt;img src="http://Imagedeposit.com/ad_images/ImageDeposit_dot_com_FREE_Hosting_BIG_UserID_179911_Image_number_C715CC78C6.jpg" alt="click here for free image hosting"  border=&quot0"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;img src="http://Imagedeposit.com/ad_images/ImageDeposit_dot_com_FREE_Hosting_BIG_UserID_179911_Image_number_C716267FC6.jpg" alt="click here for free image hosting"  border=&quot0"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;img src="http://Imagedeposit.com/ad_images/ImageDeposit_dot_com_FREE_Hosting_BIG_UserID_179911_Image_number_C716CF32C6.jpg" alt="click here for free image hosting"  border=&quot0"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;img src="http://Imagedeposit.com/ad_images/ImageDeposit_dot_com_FREE_Hosting_BIG_UserID_179911_Image_number_C7172DFCC6.jpg" alt="click here for free image hosting"  border=&quot0"&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br />&lt;font color="#339933"&gt;A picture's worth a 1,000 words, get your &lt;b&gt;Free&lt;/b&gt; image hosting at ImageDeposit.com &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br />]]></description>
		<starter>ralph3545g</starter>
		<poster>Big_Kill</poster>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 18:36:45 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 16:00:16 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>New W/C Trio of Synspilus</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26880</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Here is my breeding trio of Synspilus  Rio Sarstun, Guatemala.The one female looks all wasted out because she just lay eggs yesterday.The male is around 12" and the female 9" to 10"<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/syntrio001.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/syntrio003.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/syntrio004.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/syntrio002.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>BUD</starter>
		<poster>smitty</poster>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 09:53:34 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 18:50:14 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>3 new pairs of Umbies</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26876</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Here is one of the pairs.I have had them for a week and the females is full of eggs and her tube is dropping.<br />First 2 pictures are the female<br /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/new3x90build037.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/new3x90build044.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/new3x90build042.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii474/meggy_lue/new3x90build034.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>BUD</starter>
		<poster>smitty</poster>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 15:46:38 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Feeding difficulties</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26874</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I've got a solo Red Devil that I was hoping would be a beast. But he's a very picky eater and not growing to his potential. I feed it only Hikari cichlid gold. And now he only eats a few pellets and leaves the rest. I've tried skipping a day of feeding and it still only eats a few pellets and leaves the rest. <br /><br />A fish expert who works at a fish store convinced me to buy Tetra jumbokrill freeze dried jumbo shrimp and said Red Devils love that food 9 times out of 10. I put a piece in there tonight and the Red Devil wouldn't even touch it. <br /><br />Should I just play the stubborn game that some fish tend to play and wait it out several days before feeding the jumbokrill?<br /><br />Will a Red Devil get so hungry that it will have no choice but to eat the jumbokrill?<br /><br />Or will the Red Devil continue not to eat it and starve to death?]]></description>
		<starter>aquarium</starter>
		<poster>aquarium</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 20:29:50 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 05:40:51 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>How do i make my pics smaller to post?</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26873</link>
		<description>When i try to post my cichlid photos it comes back stating i exceed the limit? So how do i make images smaller without a photoshop program? or is it even possible?.</description>
		<starter>robbryan</starter>
		<poster>Blue Demp</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 14:39:13 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 17:48:04 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>parachromis loisellei help</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26844</link>
		<description><![CDATA[My parachromis loisellei has been actin super different color has changed almost no activity... eats like 3 pellets every other day...any ideas the second picture is what he used to look like<br /><br />i jus got a dovii fuckin awesome love the fish...anything i need to do to get his color out more<br /><br />and jjus got a flowerhorn x parrot from a friend its currrently a ugly lil shyt in my opinion, but will it get any better looking later on .... will it get a hump cuz i do believe its a male<br /><br />and im getting another camera...sorry<br /><br /><a href='http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24844'>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24844</a><br /><a href='http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24845'>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24845</a><br /><a href='http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24846'>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24846</a><br /><a href='http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24847'>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24847</a><br /><a href='http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24848'>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24848</a>]]></description>
		<starter>chino412000</starter>
		<poster>Big_Kill</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 13:09:07 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 16:13:03 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Good C/A 2-4 fish combos in a 75g tank?</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26801</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Currently I've got a solo Red Devil in a 75g. It's going well. But I thought I might want to try something different with a little more excitement somewhere down the line. I still want some aggression. But this time I would want at least 2 fish. My top fish on the list would be a convict, Jack Dempsey, and some type of lively catfish if that would be possible. I'm just not sure what would be good combinations. <br /><br />So what are some good two to four fish Central American combinations that would work in a 75g tank? A catfish with the combo would be a plus.]]></description>
		<starter>aquarium</starter>
		<poster>Aquanero</poster>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 05:50:52 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:00:35 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Gymnogeophagus labiatus spawn</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26800</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I got these guys about three weeks ago , in just over two weeks they had spawned for me. The females been holding since Sunday. The first fish I've had since last year and already got to start thinking about where to put babies. <br />The male<br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/Gymnos011.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br />The male and one of the females<br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/Gymnos001.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br />eggs<br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/eggs004.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br />Female holding<br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/femaletetras004.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br />slightly better pic of the male<br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/femaletetras008.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><br />]]></description>
		<starter>thatcichlidguy</starter>
		<poster>thatcichlidguy</poster>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:30:37 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 23:02:05 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Breeding Dovis</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26786</link>
		<description><![CDATA[They are 2 years old and got them Ken Davis (Fishfarm). Lots of babies<br /><br /><img src="http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/armac1965/DSCN0587.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/armac1965/DSCN0585.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>armac</starter>
		<poster>armac</poster>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:06:21 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 12:03:51 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Breeding Jags</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26784</link>
		<description>My 6 inch jaguar female just laid eggs in this crater that my 3.5 inch male dug.... Ireally dont know if my male is mature enough to fertilize the eggs... what size does he have to be to fertilize her eggs?...Another question...if  i take my male jag out and put in my 8 inch jack dempsey would he fertilze them?... and do you great people have any tips to increase my sucess... ima try to upload photos a lil later</description>
		<starter>chino412000</starter>
		<poster>chino412000</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:20:49 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:25:54 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Red Texas Cichlid Not Into Rock</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26757</link>
		<description><![CDATA[For those of you who have been following my young breeder Red Texas cichlid who recently sprung from obscurity into the ranks of the Construction Union. These are yesteray'd developments. Trying to assuage him for letting his nest be overrun by current, I brought a few choice rocks back for him  from Long Island. He maneuvered the 2 small pieces of slate into sides for the egg deposition area, and them much to  my surprise when I added a middling piece of fossiliferous brachiopod rock. he tried to nip me with his BIG pearly whites, and procedured to drag the rock which weighs as much as he does  to the far corner of the tank. As long as I was positioning new smaller power filters, he came right up and snatched the black plastic cover off one and proceeded to place it behind the two slates. It's too bad I can't  get a keyboard in the water: I think he could write this diary himself!]]></description>
		<starter>drrobertprice</starter>
		<poster>drrobertprice</poster>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 05:39:52 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 05:39:52 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>dovii yawning</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26755</link>
		<description>I have a 3 inch long juvenile dovii that is always yawning. Is this normal or something wrong.</description>
		<starter>n.y.jetsfan</starter>
		<poster>jimmymac</poster>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:01:45 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:13:17 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Pics of my new Gymnos</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26734</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I finally got my 125 back up and going again. Only took 8 months to get settled enough to justify starting it again <img src="http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="&lt;_&lt;" border="0" alt="dry.gif" /> . I went to the good LFS (Animal Jungle in Virginia Beach) and picked up a trio of G. Labiatus "taraparae"(?). Not sure if thats a legit local variety or not, but the fish are pretty cool none the less. <br /><br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/Gymnos001.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/Gymnos002.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/Gymnos011.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/Gymnos012.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/Gymnos008.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg203/joelsfish/Gymnos/Gymnos013.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br />They're still settling in so these aren't exactly great but maybe in a week or two I can get some better ones.]]></description>
		<starter>thatcichlidguy</starter>
		<poster>clgkag</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:31:52 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:23:32 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>What can I do?</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26730</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have a 90 gallon tank, and can not keep any cichlids in their. When ever I put a cichlid in the 90 gallon they seem to be shy and unhappy and stop eating. I have a cory cat in their that seems to be ok, in fact the  dichlids are not catching any disease or anything but just seems to not like the tank. I am using an aqua clear filter the biggest one that they make, I forgit the model number. Do you think I should add a canister ot the tank? I do water changes 25% once a week. <br /><br />My male and female grammodes don't like the tank, if I put them in the big tank (look at my signature) then they are happy, if I put my Escondido in their then I have the same proplem. I need to put a pair of something in their to give me more room in my 360. Do anyone have any suggestion on what may be the problem?]]></description>
		<starter>Cichlidfever</starter>
		<poster>Cichlidfever</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:51:11 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:12:09 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Red Texas Cichlid Battles Adversity</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26716</link>
		<description>I have seldom in my 40 years of expereince encountered a fish with the tenacity and intelligemce of my male Red Texas Cichlid. In the past two weeks I have posted how he totally rearranged a 30 gallon tank overnight to best accommodate a female, how he wooed and seduced a newly introduced female at first sight, how he sequentially arranged and cleaned rocks for her to lay eggs, and, now, unfortunately after losing their eggs most likely to the turbulence  of a 50 gallon filter, he  recognized the problem before I did. Early this morning he constructed a 15 inch high gravel berm to intercept the current from the filter. He worked at lit frentically from about 5 AM to 9, then enlisted the help his female Midas cichlid mate to elevate it to 18 inches. He woke me up many some very loud noises as he attacked the outflow of the power filter and bit it very hard. He then placed himself right in front to it it and stared at it like a malignant enemy. By 9 AM, I realized that he intended to eliminate the filter if he could, so I assisted him by disconnecting it. He stuck his head in it and bit at it viciuosly as I removed it. I replaced it with a much slower flow rate power filyer which he started down for several hours, inserting his his inside now and then. He then busied himself with rearranging the  nesting area and stopped adding to the berm. Unfortunately the female has not yet realized that her remaining eggs are almost certainly unfertilized, but her companion seems to be thinking ahead.</description>
		<starter>drrobertprice</starter>
		<poster>Paul</poster>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:52:01 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:49:42 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Carpinte</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26713</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi guys just want share my Escondido, He's probably at 6 inches now<br /><img src="http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll189/predator24_2006PHOTO/quetzal004.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll189/predator24_2006PHOTO/quetzal003-1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>Predator24</starter>
		<poster>Predator24</poster>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:45:48 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:32:09 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Preventing Hexamita</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26706</link>
		<description>Just as new idea this year, when I did my annual spring tank cleainigs two weeks ago. I added 100 mg/ 10 gallons of flagyl to all my Flowerhorn tanks. A few that seemed to perhave have touches of Hexamita and acting like their on red Bull now.</description>
		<starter>drrobertprice</starter>
		<poster>Tolak</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:31:11 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:56:54 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Red Texas and Mdisas Do It On the Solstice</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26705</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Sure enough during the AM of March 21, I found about 200 eggs laid by my Midas Female under guard by its Red Texas mate. This was really a bang-bang romance, the two fish having been placed together less than two weeks ago, the nest haing been completed the night before, and the eggs laid Sunday morning. They chose the smooth rock furthest from the filter and I'm expecting the blessed event in two more days. The famle now fans the nest most of day and the male stands guard on top, occasionally doing a little gravel maintenance.<br />]]></description>
		<starter>drrobertprice</starter>
		<poster>psychogat3</poster>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:27:37 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:54:13 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Picked up  some nasties today</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26689</link>
		<description>Picked up a trio of Haits today--1m2f.  They have already spawned and are growing out in a 75.  They will eventually go in the 450.  Hard to find fish around here and I am stoked.</description>
		<starter>clgkag</starter>
		<poster>clgkag</poster>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:38:32 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:29:43 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Beani & Black Nasty Compatibility]]></title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26677</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hey there.... does anyone have any knowledge of beanies & Odos living together..?<br />We have all read about both (this is not a bloat topic) but has anyone ever<br />tried this combo and had sucsess?????]]></description>
		<starter>terrors r us</starter>
		<poster>Cichlidfever</poster>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:41:22 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:10:51 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Hummer H3 Plugin Hybrid Gets 100 MPG</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26675</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The V-8 combustion engine has been replaced by a small stand-alone 4 cylinder 2.0L engine which is only connected to the 100 kW Symetron PM Synchronous generator, and not the drive system. The engine is used only generate electricity and recharge the batteries when the vehicle drives beyond its 40 mile battery range and the lithium ion batteries are spent.<br />source is:<br /><a href="http://imgwebsearch.com/35419/link/Hybrid%20car/1_Link_only.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://imgwebsearch.com/35419/img4/Hybrid%20car/1_Link_only.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>]]></description>
		<starter>Hybridtrork</starter>
		<poster>Hybridtrork</poster>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:56:40 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:56:40 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Potential Tank Mate</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26674</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I currently have my Red Devil in a 100g (72 x 18 x 17) by himself. The pictures below were taken a while ago. I would say he is between 8 to 11 inches currently, and has already begun to develop his hump and discover girls which is why he is not in the 156g anymore. I have accepted that he will be one of my "wet pets" which is ok by me. I was curious if  anyone had any luck with these guys cohabiting  with Pikes, mainly the Xingu/orange pike. I appreciate all feed back. <br /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v394/scarlet33/BK1_1282.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v394/scarlet33/BK1_1260.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v394/scarlet33/BK1_1261.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br />]]></description>
		<starter>Scarlet</starter>
		<poster>clgkag</poster>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:00:48 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:36:10 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Suble But Poentially Important Cues on Mating Compatability</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26673</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have had in my possession for two years a curious fish who as can best tell is 1/2 Texas Cichlid, 1/4 Carpinte. and 1/4 Midas Cichlid. It was unimpressive as a juvenile but at 4 1/2 inches developed red gills, red frills on all fins with an olive and blue ground color and began digging more than any  fish I have ever owned. It dug itself a "porch" to sleep under and did miscellaneous digging all over its 30 gallon tank until it reached 7 inches. At that point it grew a white lipless beak like a true Rose Queen, became belligerent, ousted a 9  inch pleco, and I was forced to remove its few tank mates. It's persisent efforts at digging led  me to think it was looking for a mate. I had 3 options all about its size, which was now 8 inches 1. a half Kamfa half Midas Cichlisd which was tank bred. It nearly scared this fish to death. . I tried a large female Red Dragon Flowerhorn which had proven aggressive on previous breeding attempts. This fish induced one of the oddest behaviors in the Texas Hybrid I have seen. It buried the bottom of its head in th gravel and vibrated rather violent whenever the Flowerhorn approached. After several hours of this I assumed they were not compatible. 3. Finally I added (with some reservation) a wild caught Midas which had bred with two Kamfa Flowerhorns but also killed 2 others. They immediately got along famously, did some ritual dancing, and both got to work excavatong the rest of tank until they had constructed a foot square pit around a round flat rock with 9 inch high gravel walls. They are now defending the pit from fingers and algae scrapers and seem intent on bredding. I am interested in correspending with anyone who has observed the head in th sand response, or similar situations.]]></description>
		<starter>drrobertprice</starter>
		<poster>shep</poster>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:10:55 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:56:54 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>What is it?</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26671</link>
		<description><![CDATA['K guys, help me out. What is it? I'm not 100% sure.<br /><br /><img src="http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv88/cristoph_album/IMG_7845.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<starter>SinisterKisses</starter>
		<poster>SinisterKisses</poster>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:00:59 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:11:54 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>questions about fry</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26665</link>
		<description>my dovii pair just spawned and the little wigglers hatched today. My question is, how long before you should remove the fry?</description>
		<starter>umbiemaniac</starter>
		<poster>psychogat3</poster>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:26:33 -0500</pubDate>
		<lastPostDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:45:15 -0500</lastPostDate>
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		<title>Blackbelt with fry</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26645</link>
		<description><![CDATA[This is my <i>Vieja maculicauda</i> pair with their fry. Yougns are about 4 months old and they will live this week. For peoples in Montreal, they will be avalaible at Aquarius and later at Aqua Tropicale on Ferrier street.<br />You will see on the video the female is in bad shape. The male is currently alone with the fry and the female is in another aquarium until she recovered, and then, she will return in the 180 gallons for a new breeding<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBRkQwc5tE" target="_blank">Video on Youtube</a>]]></description>
		<starter>Michel B</starter>
		<poster>umbiemaniac</poster>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:08:48 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Re-doing my 125</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26643</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I need some advice on stocking a 125g. It currently houses my 9" oscar and 2 large Angels, but I am wanting to make a change and house some Central Americans....any ideas? I've always loved Carptinis (sp?) and Tri-macs]]></description>
		<starter>jaybuc</starter>
		<poster>jaybuc</poster>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:23:23 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Dovii breeding pair with fry</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26631</link>
		<description><![CDATA[There is my Dovii breeding pair<br />Male is about 13 inches and female 10 inches and they are just a bit more than 2 years old.<br />Here they are, on a Janis song, Me and Bobby McGee<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9TpeaP6fw" target="_blank">Video on Youtube</a>]]></description>
		<starter>Michel B</starter>
		<poster>BootyBandit</poster>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:38:45 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Vieja</title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26603</link>
		<description><![CDATA[guy on my wi forum has a (3-3.5") pink Vieja Fenestratus and 2 1.5"-2"  " F1" Vieja Synspilum. he wants 20 for the first one and 10 each for the other two, im gonna see if he will do a package deal. but does this seem like a good price? think these fish would be to agro for my sevrums? im also loking for somthing for my 125 also or vise versa donno whos going where yet. but i would like an idea about them? i know nothing and have done alil reading googleing them.....<br /><br /><br />em i know you and a few others seem to know alot about them how about some input:D]]></description>
		<starter>shep</starter>
		<poster>shep</poster>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:32:45 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[carpintis 'vontehillo']]></title>
		<link>http://www.cichlidmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26594</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Originally Posted by Aquamojo  <i>All I can say is that your reputation is something you work to build every day...and something you can lose in a matter of minutes. He has a great looking Carpinte variant there, yet felt compelled to use a picture 3 years old...and of a hybrid...to sell the fish. Go figure.<br /></i><br /><br />And some folks work at trying to tear down reputations even if it's only every other third Tuesday; and owning their own web forums - holding a certain amount of lopsided sway over a given limited segment of a fairly naive "web community" - not having to work too terribly hard at it?<br /> <br />About five years ago, at one particularly virulent interlude in the Conkel-hater wave, encountered the following at www.aquamojo.com:<br /><br /><a href="http://forum.aquamojo.com/index.php?...5729&hl=conkel" target="_blank">http://forum.aquamojo.com/index.php?...5729&hl=conkel</a><br /><br />So one <u>Blaze</u> Dec 19 2004, 05:02 PM starts a thread called “don conkel” <br />and writes: <i>Does he have a website if so how do I get to it ??? </i><br /><br />Obviously, Don’s wholesale list was then posted.<br /><br />Then <u>Aquamoj</u>o Dec 20 2004, 08:40 AM flippantly chirps: <br /><i>QUOTE: <br />outstanding list ... and sooooooo affordable too. (IMG <br /><br /><b>AND.....the disease that comes with the fish is FREE!!! ???</b></i><br /><br />XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />The context is clear and meaning unambiguous. Apparently, <u>Aquamojo</u> saw the need then to associate Don Conkel's Tropicals with<i> <b>the FREE disease that comes with the fish</b></i> and literally nothing else. So yes, Go figure. Tended to notice the pattern in those times. This is only one example of many involving <u>Aquamojo</u> that stands out in memory. The "Conkel vieja melting pot" type comments were smeared all over www.aquamojo.com for a few years until some but not all were redacted.<br /><br />Of course, that was then and this is now. But it gives one pause for reflection. So times change...and targets change with 'em?<br /><br />It might make one wonder about the ultimate source of the Conkel bashing given the "below the radar vanguard" (if you'll pardon the expression) perpetuating the Conkel-hater crew, or now, at last, the guilt-by-association Ira-hater remnants of what has finally congealed into an insipid little Ira-hater club? True, if Ira posts pics of non-vontehillo, purported to be vontehillo, that's an honest mistake. I don't know the man personally and have only spoken to him once on the phone. Didn't see any reason to play an Inquisitor wannabee then and don't see any need to try and crucify him now. Wonder what would possibly motivate anyone to even consider doing so?<br />XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br /><br />It's funny the conclusions "hobbyists" (web hobbyists) sometimes jump to. <br /><br />Q: Why has no one recently asked why Escondido are no longer caught from the wild? Fished out, perhaps? And Chairel? Same story? Not sure. And if fish are WC and happen to be "called" Vontehillo, for good reason, then only of ignorance would one refer to them by Escondido or Lahillas or whatever? Did so few notice that all of the DCT wild cichlids are attached a geographical epithet? Would you prefer DCT cease doing so? <br /><br />Q: Why is it such a deep mystery that DC or IRA or ANYBODY would refer to a WC fish by its collection point? Is that really the cause for such suspicion and even greater cacophony?<br /><br />Q: Why has someone not asked the even more obvious question, Mo? "Don, have you actually been to Vontehillo? Did you, Don, collect the fish there yourself?" Because you might be surprised by Don's (possible) answer: "No, hobbyists, one and all, I did NOT EVER go to Vontehillo, nor do I have any immediate intent to do so, because I have more pressing concerns. I do, however, implicitly trust the man who collected them for me. If you're calling him a liar you may as well call me one too. If any of you would like to go there and collect for yourselves, I have it on sound reportage that it's indeed N of Luguna Chairel, S X SE of Tampico, about 2 miles E of the Caribbean." I wouldn't put words in Don's mouth, but if you call him up at the number listed at his website and ask him, there is a significant degree of probability that's roughly along the lines of what you could learn, if/when learning is the name of the game at web forums. <br /><br />FWIW, I had a slight problem with the "celare est arte summa cum laude" stuff. I think I read in high school that "All art is deception" though I don't think I'd take it to heart or made it my credo. So maybe for some all "rep" is deception. But one thing's for sure; DCT dominates the planet in the distribution of rare & wild American cichlids, and anyone that further facilitates that, LFS retailers and Ira alike, only amplify the thing. No one with an IQ over 86 ever says, "DCT stock is crap," or "DC is deceitful," matter of fact the overwhelmingly vast majority of hobbyists and retailers worldwide say precisely the opposite. So if Don supplies Ira, therefore would be a fairly solid inference that rises a wee bit above suspicious minds and "web forum rep," hopefully. <br /><br />Smear-merchs REALLY need to get a life, perhaps?<br /><br />Controversy? Only where suspicious minds lurk...<br /><br />Obviously, <i>at least</i> one of the "other" forums is wrestling with the truth, surprisingly enough all the way up from moderator to owner, clear from here to Silver Springs, but soon enough, falsehoods may come back to bite a person, and sometimes bite down hard. IOW, in my estimate, <i>innuendos</i> about <i>legitimate</i> cichlid wholesalers/distributors et. al. rep or no rep ain't too cool. The extremely negative impact on the unsuspecting cichlid hobbyist and hobby as a whole is concerning. Does the ACA as a whole "sanction" blatant garbage habitually spewn all over the net??? One can't help wondering.]]></description>
		<starter>mojarraman</starter>
		<poster>Tony</poster>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:56:15 -0600</pubDate>
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