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post Feb 27 2010, 10:32 PM
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75- 12" reed fish,1- 6" senegalus (sp), 1 male sajica, . 2 male and 2 female altispinospa "bolivian rams", 3 un sexed red head tapajos geos., 1 Apistogramma baenschi, , 2 bristle nose pleco, 3 panda cory cats

125-1" 14+"p.b lap (birchir) , two fat raphel cat 6-7" long and 2" round, 6" blk afroknife, 4 6"" sevrums, pair of gold (have laid but never more then a day), and pair red shoulders, 1 male port acara, 1 male C. nic. 2 smaller female sajicas



guy on my wi forum has a (3-3.5") pink Vieja Fenestratus and 2 1.5"-2" " F1" Vieja Synspilum. he wants 20 for the first one and 10 each for the other two, im gonna see if he will do a package deal. but does this seem like a good price? think these fish would be to agro for my sevrums? im also loking for somthing for my 125 also or vise versa donno whos going where yet. but i would like an idea about them? i know nothing and have done alil reading googleing them.....


em i know you and a few others seem to know alot about them how about some input:D


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pair of gold sevrums, pair of green rotkeil sevrums, 1 female rotkiel sevrum, 1 female silivini, 1 female crenicichla lucius pike
1 P bichir lapradei, 2 striped raphel cats and a sump full of nic fry

125- temp home: 1 red devil, 1 pink Vieja Fenestratus, 1 male texas

75-3 female sajicas, pair " F1" Vieja Synspilum, 1 P. delhezi, 1 P. ornate, 1 Erpetoichthys calabaricus

40- 4 Herichthys carpintis "escondido", 4 amatitlania nigrofascinta "calico convicts"

30- 2 thorichthys sp "gold mixteco", 4 herichthys deppi, 4 small "giant" danios
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post Feb 28 2010, 12:37 AM
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Fenestratus are a very nasty fish. I can buy the pinks for $5.99 for that size. The synspilum are a bit more docile but I can get 3-4" fish for $4.99. Granted, they're not "F1" but still.
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post Feb 28 2010, 12:46 AM
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Current Cichlids:

30L 30+ multi fry(Neolamprologus multifasciatus)

75- 12" reed fish,1- 6" senegalus (sp), 1 male sajica, . 2 male and 2 female altispinospa "bolivian rams", 3 un sexed red head tapajos geos., 1 Apistogramma baenschi, , 2 bristle nose pleco, 3 panda cory cats

125-1" 14+"p.b lap (birchir) , two fat raphel cat 6-7" long and 2" round, 6" blk afroknife, 4 6"" sevrums, pair of gold (have laid but never more then a day), and pair red shoulders, 1 male port acara, 1 male C. nic. 2 smaller female sajicas



thanks i need to find out where he lives first before i make him an offer but thanks for giving me those examples......


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pair of gold sevrums, pair of green rotkeil sevrums, 1 female rotkiel sevrum, 1 female silivini, 1 female crenicichla lucius pike
1 P bichir lapradei, 2 striped raphel cats and a sump full of nic fry

125- temp home: 1 red devil, 1 pink Vieja Fenestratus, 1 male texas

75-3 female sajicas, pair " F1" Vieja Synspilum, 1 P. delhezi, 1 P. ornate, 1 Erpetoichthys calabaricus

40- 4 Herichthys carpintis "escondido", 4 amatitlania nigrofascinta "calico convicts"

30- 2 thorichthys sp "gold mixteco", 4 herichthys deppi, 4 small "giant" danios
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post Feb 28 2010, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(Modest_Man @ Feb 28 2010, 01:37 AM) *
Fenestratus are a very nasty fish. I can buy the pinks for $5.99 for that size. The synspilum are a bit more docile but I can get 3-4" fish for $4.99. Granted, they're not "F1" but still.


Those are some great prices for those 2 fish. I can't get either of them that cheap especially true Synspilums.
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post Feb 28 2010, 08:38 AM
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The prices seem pretty nice. I don't have any experience with the fene though, I wish I did, they have been on my wish list for a while now. The synspilum would be fine together at that size. Usually if they are young and about the same size they do pretty well. I have stocked them in my 125 and 210 in a community setting without any issues. The don't bother the other fish at all, but they spook really easily.
My 10" female zonatus however, is pretty intolerant of any kind of vieja. Too bad too, I kind of wish I could do something with her now that she is laying eggs on a regular basis.
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post Feb 28 2010, 09:13 AM
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I have never kept fenestratus, but my synspilum's were very conspecific aggressive but I never saw them once attack any other tankmates large or small. I'm from across the pond, so those prices are hard for me to speak of, as we seem to have completely different prices for certain fish.



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post Feb 28 2010, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(Modest_Man @ Feb 28 2010, 12:37 AM) *
Fenestratus are a very nasty fish. I can buy the pinks for $5.99 for that size. The synspilum are a bit more docile but I can get 3-4" fish for $4.99. Granted, they're not "F1" but still.

I, on the other hand, can't find Synspilums around here to save my life and would gladly pay $10 for a 1.5" Syn. The adult Syn I have now was raised with +12" Midas cichlids and he held his own, and when he was moved into a tank with smaller fish did not end up being a bully at all. I would be careful about putting one with a Sev though, unless you are raising them together or if the Sev is larger than the Syn.
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post Feb 28 2010, 12:38 PM
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I can't find EITHER of them around here and would probably pay twice that without hesitation tongue.gif

Vixen (my female fenestratus) is too aggressive to be kept with severums. She's fairly docile on her own, but on the rare occasion I've tried to keep her with another fish, I have to split them up pretty quickly.


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post Feb 28 2010, 11:16 PM
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That's funny sin cause Harry Tolen totally saturated the Seattle market with syn the last decade or so. Had so many the shops practically give them away. Figured they'd have made it just up north over the border. (That's who Aquamojo's syns came from.) I actually got the couple I had for free cause I went and picked them up and he was trying to give me dozens of 5-6" fish.
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post Mar 1 2010, 01:13 AM
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Current Cichlids:

30L 30+ multi fry(Neolamprologus multifasciatus)

75- 12" reed fish,1- 6" senegalus (sp), 1 male sajica, . 2 male and 2 female altispinospa "bolivian rams", 3 un sexed red head tapajos geos., 1 Apistogramma baenschi, , 2 bristle nose pleco, 3 panda cory cats

125-1" 14+"p.b lap (birchir) , two fat raphel cat 6-7" long and 2" round, 6" blk afroknife, 4 6"" sevrums, pair of gold (have laid but never more then a day), and pair red shoulders, 1 male port acara, 1 male C. nic. 2 smaller female sajicas



im gonna get them 35 for all three for now they are gonna be in my 40 gal after i get things moved around i can space things out enough and i have enough egg crate and empty tanks ill make shit work.

im either gona put my chicken shit RD in the 30 down stairs or test him in my 125 seriously this fish sucks, its beautiful and it hides all the time:(

thanks everyone


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180-
pair of gold sevrums, pair of green rotkeil sevrums, 1 female rotkiel sevrum, 1 female silivini, 1 female crenicichla lucius pike
1 P bichir lapradei, 2 striped raphel cats and a sump full of nic fry

125- temp home: 1 red devil, 1 pink Vieja Fenestratus, 1 male texas

75-3 female sajicas, pair " F1" Vieja Synspilum, 1 P. delhezi, 1 P. ornate, 1 Erpetoichthys calabaricus

40- 4 Herichthys carpintis "escondido", 4 amatitlania nigrofascinta "calico convicts"

30- 2 thorichthys sp "gold mixteco", 4 herichthys deppi, 4 small "giant" danios
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post Mar 5 2010, 09:55 PM
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Current Cichlids:

30L 30+ multi fry(Neolamprologus multifasciatus)

75- 12" reed fish,1- 6" senegalus (sp), 1 male sajica, . 2 male and 2 female altispinospa "bolivian rams", 3 un sexed red head tapajos geos., 1 Apistogramma baenschi, , 2 bristle nose pleco, 3 panda cory cats

125-1" 14+"p.b lap (birchir) , two fat raphel cat 6-7" long and 2" round, 6" blk afroknife, 4 6"" sevrums, pair of gold (have laid but never more then a day), and pair red shoulders, 1 male port acara, 1 male C. nic. 2 smaller female sajicas



well i drove over and got them, the syns im pretty sure of the other i donno its funny looking and he had alot of hybreds........ but i do know where he lives. guy had them in a tank with nothing no gravel no decor not back ground they looked kinda crappy, the syns colored up as soon as i got them in my tank and the other one has a funny pattern ill get pix tomarrow after they have settled



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180-
pair of gold sevrums, pair of green rotkeil sevrums, 1 female rotkiel sevrum, 1 female silivini, 1 female crenicichla lucius pike
1 P bichir lapradei, 2 striped raphel cats and a sump full of nic fry

125- temp home: 1 red devil, 1 pink Vieja Fenestratus, 1 male texas

75-3 female sajicas, pair " F1" Vieja Synspilum, 1 P. delhezi, 1 P. ornate, 1 Erpetoichthys calabaricus

40- 4 Herichthys carpintis "escondido", 4 amatitlania nigrofascinta "calico convicts"

30- 2 thorichthys sp "gold mixteco", 4 herichthys deppi, 4 small "giant" danios
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